My gut told me these were the same. After sending a couple of question to Black Gate regards scale Barry offered to send me a few early test casts to prove/illustrate the usefulness of these particular models with other 15mm miniatures on the market today. They have arrived, and I can happily say that I WAS RIGHT! (That feels quite good).
As a small return for a few free minis, I thought I’d post a few comparative scale shots with other manufactures in the market so that you lot can see for yourself.
First off, the casts sent to me, by themselves, tacked to washers that I normally use on 15s so that their height is adjusted accordingly when next to others.
Always with an eye towards character driven skirmish games, I do like my little squads of personalities and these guys from 15mm.co.uk are just that.
I’m not 100% sure where the bot on the right came from (15mm.co.uk, old Traveller, or elsewhere) but the other 4 are from the SHM Range at 15mm.co.uk. The noble idea is to give up-and-coming sculptors a commercial outlet for their work. As you might expect then the sculpting is not the most ‘refined’ but there is certainly plenty of character and fun to be had with this range.
Of the many I have from the range, I selected a few that I thought would make an interesting ‘group’ for any of the dozen or so science fiction based skirmishing games out there – particularly suitable for Rogue Planet, a number of titles from Nordic Weasel or perhaps the upcoming Rogue Stars from Osprey but the awesome Andrea Sfiligoi of Ganesha Games. Have I played any? Nah, not yet – the proverbial non-Gaming Gamer Syndrome prevails. But I love the idea!
They are rather nice and paint up well (I think). I do have a couple of observations;
To my mind they are scaled spot on for 15mm ‘old school’. With the current scale creep that makes them a little ‘dainty’ for 18mm. Having said that, it’s common practice for many to scale-down on terrain for best results.
They are very ‘fantasy’ so if your a stickler for ‘historical authenticity’ they are not going to double up for medieval or early renaissance for you. They’re fine for me! Having said that, they’ve clearly avoided the OTT fantasy paraphernalia that you’d see on the GW Manor House for example (which is a great set btw if only for the wall components).
I’ve been happy to settle for Graffam style paper buildings for quite some time. They are fun to build and look good on a table (and cheap – I’ll post a pic of the medieval city I built a couple of years ago). However, put one of these resin models next to a paper model and the difference is very notable. I think it’s one or the other, and not both mixed in together. An observation, not a criticism!
I’ve gone and bitten off far more than I can chew – again!
Innocently raking through some old miniatures I came across a bunch of these guys and thought, “Oh, I’ll paint these and see how they will look with this new metallic paint I have”. Before the paint has dried nearly £300 is winging it’s way to Khurasan Miniatures for several kilos of sci fi/apocalypse/ horror 15mm stuff.
Whilst waiting for the order to arrive far too much time was spent catching up on the sci fi scene, rules and digging out old terrain and buying or building some new stuff.